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On Tracers and Tracing by NeuronPlectrum On Tracers and Tracing by NeuronPlectrum
This is here because I got what I wanted: [link]

Outtakes for "bargaining" via twitpic [link]
Alternate endings: [link]

Information on the Kübler-Ross model, the genuine one that's reserved for people going through actual tragedies, not lapses in hubris [link]
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WittleBanzaiTree Featured By Owner Feb 2, 2013
I never knew something like this existed.This group has opened my eyes about DA.I thought DA was for sh=aring ORIGINAL ART created nby yourself and for others to share advice on what to do to improve or to point mistakes.Example we have tutorials and critique but tracing isn't art its just another version of those connecting the dots in the newspaper.And,whats so sad the people who are tracing get better veiws :/ while the original is hidden beneath(spealling >:( )it.
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EwDont Featured By Owner Dec 21, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I agree with all of this! I been told "I was so jealous of you! I just HAD to copy it!" or "The only reason why I traced it because I wanted to get more views!". Those are just lamest excuses for begging for popularity. The only reason why people invented tracing paper is so artists can trace there drawings or for tattooing (that's what I know so far).

People on Colors! harassed me for hating on tracers. They'll always say, "As long as they give credit, it's cool! So, shut the f*ck up!". They'll bitch out that to everyone until it happens to them. Colors! probably have more tracers then artists, because more stolen art is getting more popular then those people that take there time on there art. Hell, even a f*cking black dot gotten popular. :wtf:
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NeuronPlectrum Featured By Owner Jan 2, 2013   Traditional Artist
What gets me about the tracers is that, even in spite of admitting to wanting more views and giving credit and whatnot, they still basically want the same recognition and regard as the artists they copy off of. Copies aren't equals, and nothing equates to an original. They want to be treated like they have some special talent when all they're doing is what I did with a sheet of tracing paper and a Ninja Turtles comic when I was 8. I'll actually stand up for tracing as a kind of gateway or stepping stone since it's probably how most of us start at some point in our past (I think it's got something to do with the survival instinct, monkey see/monkey do and all that), but when people start trying to earn reputations for it or, worse, use it to deceive and get noticed, that's just childish. It's like trying to enter the grand nationals with a hobby horse, and demanding the highest honor just for showing up.
I think the reason sites like DevART and ColorsLive (or any art site, really) have so many tracers is simply that most of them know they're never going to really go anywhere with their so-called "work" but if they can get just a little attention or praise (mostly from people who don't know any better), then it's all worth it and they feel that much better about themselves. It's like cheating on a test in first grade; it's cheating, but it's only elementary school. They see the internet as their private little playground, instead of just the real world reduced to text on a screen.
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EwDont Featured By Owner Jan 2, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Exactly, and tracers who seek out for fame don't know what popular artists have to go though. Yes they get more comments, favorites, and more opportunities, but they have to go through trolls, spammers, art thieves, and so on. I wanted to be more recognized, but I'm not going to fast forward myself to fame. Like you said, it's like cheating on a test in first grade.
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Schplitzkriegs Featured By Owner Nov 22, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
The last one is very true. Those tracers get MANY more views, and me, who puts actual EFFORT into their work hardly gets comments. I get a ton of views though.

But then once again, I don't care about that because I see this site to be more about ART than views.
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NeuronPlectrum Featured By Owner Nov 22, 2012   Traditional Artist
Exactly.
The people here who care more about views than doing art they're personally happy with, wanting success and attention for abilities they don't have, aren't even putting the cart before the horse; they're tethering the cart to the hitching post and taking all the curious stares as positive reinforcement.
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Schplitzkriegs Featured By Owner Nov 23, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I agree. People who actually put EFFORT into their art should get more views/comments than a tracer/art thief/recolorer (well, they're all the same thing). My pics get hardly any comments, but I saw a stolen pic that got like, 22 comments.
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Saira-Dragon Featured By Owner Jul 18, 2013
(I know the comment is a bit old) But its kinda true i usually put effort in my art *especially when it comes to finishing one since i takes weeks months to finish one since i get a lot of ideas at once x.x* but then  i post it and get little to no comments or opinions which i would like it helps. Sometimes i get 341 looks some faves no comments or 2 comments faves little views , i even got a comment that was very rude which was a while back so i would just forget about it. Then i see in groups im in sometimes having art that looks traced from some thing i saw etc they some times get 10 to 20 comments on something*i don't even know now*. I also saw stolen art get featured on deviantart  also featured on facebook , the person even tried selling prints of the art (someone linked the original artist) she had copyright on it and that is no longer allowed to be used since its a book cover but im guessing he/she stole it and used it making profit from her work *the picture also was of the real artist* it was a picture of her in photography makeup etc* i cant believe how many positive comments to art thief had.-. . 
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nfaas Featured By Owner Nov 13, 2012
Wow this is perfect.
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Except unfortunately I tend to see mostly the Denial and Anger stages. I'd love to see more Bargaining, Depression, and Acceptance here on dA.

Especially Depression if the traces are ugly as well...:ashamed:
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NeuronPlectrum Featured By Owner Nov 13, 2012   Traditional Artist
I admit I took liberties with the "acceptance" part; it was something they actually said in anger. Meanwhile, I think depression looms over all tracers, hence their willingness to boast skills they don't really have.
The bargaining aspect was the epiphany. When that tracer offered up taking their piece down if the original artist called them out on it, I thought, "They denied tracing, got angry, seems very depressed yet accepts they're not a real artist, and now they're saying if the original artist--Holy Crap, that's bargaining!"
I only wish I'd kept the comment that the original artist left on that tracer's page. It was the most surprisingly polite, mature, diplomatic, and downright rational way I've ever seen someone called a fake artist. It was a thing of beauty. I mean, Hell, I used to trace comic book panels when I was a kid, but I never touted it as any sort of skill, and even as a learning aid, I knew it wasn't going to take me very far. Those people who try to make names for themselves for it, though, like you said, are truly ugly people, not just unappealing, but downright vile.
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